No probs A/man, i watch every Cat game every week so hapy to discuss. A disgrace of a performance v the bluws last week. Blues had 20 fit men from quartertime onwards and still out ran us. We were lazy and arrogant, and paid the price. In regards to Stephen Michael, he is a long time regret for mine, never saw him play a lot ( maybe a few state of origin), we ( cats) had him signed up on the old "form four" for year and years, but couldnt entice him to the cattery no matter what!. Its an interesting debate farmer/ablett, Farmer changed the game and was a great graet player, ablett never changed the game, BUT didnt really start at the cats until he was 23, could play anywhere ( well technically not the ruck), then at the end of his career ( 30 yrs plus) went to full forward and was as good as dunstall etc who had played there all of his life. Never trained "properly" only at a times a 85 to 90 % attitude yet was a freak. Tommy hafey who was a disciplinarian demanded Ablett do the presaon, Ablett rocked up when he wanted to, Hafey was hacked off ( as hafey would be) yet was frustrated as Ablett exceeded everyone in the excercise/pace/ and strenghth tests. I recall once the cats werent even sure he would play one week against Richmond, he rolled into the room just after 12:30 saying he would play, BUT had just devured a huge roast dinner. Suffice to sy he was B.O.G against the tiges.