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jackspratt wrote: Gotta' love how this myth persists in the community that the LNP are better economic managers than Labor.

It just isn't so folks, and the numbers over many years prove it.

johnmenadue.com/john-menadue-the-myth-th...r-economic-managers/

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/m...y?CMP=share_btn_link

The budget papers ... show that the Howard government was the highest taxing government in Australia's history. In 2004-05 and 2005-06, the tax to GDP ratio reached a record high 24.2 per cent. In addition, there have been only seven occasions where the tax to GDP ratio has been in excess of 23.5 per cent of GDP and all seven were under the Howard government.

In a similar vein, in the last 30 years, there have been 10 occasions when the tax to GDP ratio has been below 22.0 per cent of GDP and all 10 were under a Labor Government. To put simply, the Howard government was a high taxer, while the current Labor Government is a lower taxer.

In terms of government spending, there have been only five years in the four decades leading up to 2012-13 when real government spending was cut in real terms. None of those cuts were delivered by a Coalition government.

www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-12/dunlop-th...c-management/6308704

Off course no one is going to change their minds if they don't get their eyes away from the Murdoch/Stokes press, and off Sky After Dark.

Labor will win by at least 8 seats.

Hey Jack...the jungle drums must be a bit slow up there in deepest, darkest Siam as you've not been on here to congratulate ScoMo on his unlikely victory.

Senior Seagull wrote: Speaking of Swan 42, can some of the Bombo valley boys call round to his place and check he hasn't done anything drastic after a bad weekend for the swans and labour.

There are a lot of similarities between Swans and Labor SS!

-Their glory days were in the 1980s and they are now a shallow shadow of then ever since.
-Had quality leaders steering the ship in those days now not even in the same postcode to the past.
-Would win elections and big games time after time but now lose the seemingly unloseable.

As for 42 you wont be seeing him appear here anytime soon

BC wrote:

jackspratt wrote: Gotta' love how this myth persists in the community that the LNP are better economic managers than Labor.

It just isn't so folks, and the numbers over many years prove it.

johnmenadue.com/john-menadue-the-myth-th...r-economic-managers/

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/m...y?CMP=share_btn_link

The budget papers ... show that the Howard government was the highest taxing government in Australia's history. In 2004-05 and 2005-06, the tax to GDP ratio reached a record high 24.2 per cent. In addition, there have been only seven occasions where the tax to GDP ratio has been in excess of 23.5 per cent of GDP and all seven were under the Howard government.

In a similar vein, in the last 30 years, there have been 10 occasions when the tax to GDP ratio has been below 22.0 per cent of GDP and all 10 were under a Labor Government. To put simply, the Howard government was a high taxer, while the current Labor Government is a lower taxer.

In terms of government spending, there have been only five years in the four decades leading up to 2012-13 when real government spending was cut in real terms. None of those cuts were delivered by a Coalition government.

www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-12/dunlop-th...c-management/6308704

Off course no one is going to change their minds if they don't get their eyes away from the Murdoch/Stokes press, and off Sky After Dark.

Labor will win by at least 8 seats.

Hey Jack...the jungle drums must be a bit slow up there in deepest, darkest Siam as you've not been on here to congratulate ScoMo on his unlikely victory.

As previously noted, BC, Mrs Spratt and I are currently luxuriating in the bosom of family in the Kimberley.

Due to the lack on internet at Home Valley Station, I was unable to come online to offer my unqualified congratulations to Zali Steggall (who I am sure will not remain an Independent for long)

As for the rest of the election - meh!

labor just proved the age old adage with shorten, in that, you cant polish a turd.

What we seen last night has happend to Labor before.In the 1950's+60's.Where the government was on toast and Labor has blown it.
Since WW2-74 years ago.We have had 25 years of ALP+49 of LNP.,allmost double.Some of thoes Labor governments where kaos also.
Just makes you think how huge Hawke+Keating where to govern well for 13 years.And win 5 elections in a row against the Lnp.In some tough economic times with high interest rates..

gtr: in relation to Hawke and keating, as you know they have actually instituted policies which destroyed their own party -- privaitisations, reductions of tariffs and subsidies, the de-regulation of the financial system, the greenism, the republicanism, eggheadism as you called it the other day, all of this taken together, has destryed the very manufacturring sector, heavily unionised which votted ALP in the past. No Labour voter ever votted to privitse stuff, but Hawke and Keating did it and Howard and peacock clapped them as they waved it through parliament.

When I was a kid my television made in Australia
there were six car companies in Australia
and clothes manufacturring
all gone now because of Hawke and Keating; keep in mnd that, had Peacock or Howard tried such policies, thery would have been defeated in an election.

Hawke and Keating were hated for a number of policies, besides the above,

proposed introduction to the GST
the ACCORD
the australia Card
high interest rates

ArkRoyal wrote: gtr: in relation to Hawke and keating, as you know they have actually instituted policies which destroyed their own party -- privaitisations, reductions of tariffs and subsidies, the de-regulation of the financial system, the greenism, the republicanism, eggheadism as you called it the other day, all of this taken together, has destryed the very manufacturring sector, heavily unionised which votted ALP in the past. No Labour voter ever votted to privitse stuff, but Hawke and Keating did it and Howard and peacock clapped them as they waved it through parliament.

Thanks for you post Ark.Yes they did sell there soul and lost there party base.And in general made larger profits at the expense of workers stable employment. Allways though Labor try have 2 bob each way.Embrase there relationship with the Actu .On the other shoe sign up to all globaiist+free tree matters.They both clash.
Recently myself and a few of my work colleagues had dealings with a state Labor representative. About issues in our industry. They where no help to us at all.And yesterday was only the 3rdtime in 3 decades that I didn't vote Labor.While I felt sorry for them the way they lost.I never bought the dozens of sms's sent to my phone by the Actu.Claiming Bill was the working class messiah.

Shorten was as popular in 2019 as he was in 2016. Ecactly. Morrison was exactly as popular as Turnbull. Quite a story.

gtr: I always enjoy reading your posts mate -- You are so right about the contradiction in reagards upholding an organisation, such as, the ACTU, and its commitment to free-trade. What annoys me most about the egg head left, gtr, is that they will go telling everybody how right-wing the country and the working class is; something, we all know is just untrue. In today's political context, all people want is a safe job, cheap electricity, the right to freeish speech, and, crucially, the right to be able to wake up in the same country as befor the election, a country with the same Queen, the same, flag, the same national day and so on.